Hello fellow TNVS Partners and Peers!
First, “congrats” to the partners who got their Provisional Authorities (P.A.) already! You are now legit and you can now ply the roads without worry ;P
If you want to check if your TNVS Application is approved, you can see the results here. If you want to track the status of your application, Uber is now implementing their online TNVS tracker. If you need help and guidance for your TNVS application, just refer to our guide and FAQs.
Being accredited with LTFRB means that we’re now subject to their rules and regulations. And speaking of regulations, did you know that there’s a new Memorandum (M.C. 2015-025) that requires TNVS (vehicles with Uber, Grab and other TNCs) to put “markings” OUTSIDE and “display” INSIDE their vehicle while on a pre-arranged trip in addition to the required trade dress. A photo of M.C. 2015-025 is shown below.This memorandum is actually an amendment to previous memoranda (M.C. 2005-006 and M.C. 2012-008) that requires “markings” for all public utility vehicles to prevent/minimize abuses of public utility drivers. This (supposedly) encourages the commuting public to report erring and abusive drivers in order to maintain safe, convenient, and comfortable public land transportation.
Refer to this tweet from LTFRB Chairman:
All PUVs must bear LTFRB’s Hotline Numbers “1342”. For TNVS, applicable provisions are paragraphs 1(b), 2, 4 & 5. pic.twitter.com/uXsYpo9AtX
— LTFRB_CHAIRMAN (@LTFRB_Chairman) November 3, 2015
You know those markings on public utility vehicles? like these:
Photo from www.philippinestaxiservice.com
Here are the highlights of the LTFRB M.C. 2015-025 (refer to the picture below):
1. According to Section 2, TNVS vehicles are required to display the trade dress , which is issued by Uber, AND LTFB markings during a pre-arranged ride.
2. According to Section 1.b, ALL public utility vehicles (INCLUDING TNVS by virtue of Section 2) like sedan, vans and similar units, shall have the LTFRB “markings” refer below.
LTFRB 24/7 Hotline: 1342
Text/Viber Hotlines: 0917-550-1342
0998-550-1342
This should be displayed in the following specifications:
Height: 3 inches
Width: 1 inch
Thickness: 0.5 inch
Color: Green
Location: Rear windshield (upper location), and at both sides.
VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: We clarified this with LTFRB, the markings on the upper rear windshield and both sides are OUTSIDE the vehicle. But this can be removable. We suggest, you can have customized refrigerator magnets, you know, like those they usually giveaway as event souvenirs.
3. According to Section 5, ALL PUVs INCLUDING TNVS, should display INSIDE the vehicle the details below. As to what display should we put INSIDE the vehicle, LTFRB said TNVS MAY USE laminated notice, a sticker, a magnetic removable display, etc for as long as it’s inside and it contains the info prescribed. THEREFORE, no need to paint the interiors. 😉
Vehicle Plate Number
LTFRB 24/7 Hotline
Operator’s Number
Notice on the grant of 20% fare discount to senior citizen, PWD and student.
4. If you applied for an authority to operate from Central Office or NCR, you have 60 days to comply after you’ve been issued the authority to operate. If you applied for an authority to operate from Regional Office, you’re given 90 days to comply after you’ve been issued the authority to operate. So, if you already have authority to operate, you need to comply ON or BEFORE December 29, 2015.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE: We believe the deadline only applies for those who are already “authorized” to operate, we believe this is for those who have CPC Franchise already. Because technically, CPC Franchise = authority to operate.
THEREFORE, we think if we don’t have authority to operate= CPC Franchise yet, no need for the markings YET.
We’ll clarify this with LTFRB, watch out for their response.
We get and share the intention of putting up these markings. If need be, of course, we will comply. We just hope that authorities does not miss the point and defeat the purpose of ridesharing. We hope Uber Philippines (and GrabCar Philippines) weigh in on this matter.
What do you partners think about this Memorandum? If you have other questions or clarifications, comment them below and we’ll clarify them for you direct from LTFRB’s office.
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If my car will have “markings” outside the vehicle, then it will be the end for me as Uber partner operator… LTFRB’s hotline numbers are useless.
We feel you bro…
I feel same as the comment above.. what happen to during spare time to earn extra money.. putting marking on our car which we use privately is disgusting. we are just sharing the use of our car.. Utak matuwas na daan..
This is the part of their plan, na talagang ayaw nila sa apps.base transportation kasi nga mas gusto na ng tao sa ganitong transportation, ok na sana kasi kaso my hirit pa silang ganyan, kaya nga private vehicle sharing tapos bababuyin lang sasakyan mo na halos walang pinagkaiba sa mga taxi or puj’s..ok naman yung binibigay ng uber na dress code..naman! Papayag ba kayo sa ganito? Anu ito tuluy na ba talaga na ganyan?
d tyo taxi para pinturahan ang mga sasakyan ntin,,,,.bkit d ilatag afad ng ltfrb ang knlng mga demands para mkpagisip,p yung mga ibang my sasakyan d yung unti unti p pra mkhikayat then later on ay madidisappoint lmang dhil sa maling sistema ng. ltfrb
huwag tayong pumayag n maging taxi. sana tindigan ng mga taga uber management huwag din silang pumayag.
Naghihintay pa lang ako ng approval pero ayoko na…”hello uber” pa lang sana pero “goodbye na” , sayang super excited pa naman driver ko…pagod na pagod na sya sa jeep dahil sa init at hirap sa jeep, kahit papano sana giginhawa hindi man siguro yung kita niya e sa katawan at kalusugan man lang sana…I feel sad for him and to me as well, kahit papano e makakatulong sana sa MA ng car ko.
Maganda sana yung hangarin nila para sa safety ng public dawbut this was never became true with TAXI’s which were from the very beginning was marked everywhere. Ni hind nga nila pinapansin mga text sa kanila na may abusado, isnabero, magnanakaw at kung anu-ano pang reklamo sa mga taxi drivers e….parang an tapang nila at ang gagaling kung magsabi ng mga patakaran nila pero hanggang dun lang naman.
Sa tagal kong sumusubaybay sa kwento ng mga riders ng taxi at UBER and from my experience myself ay milya-milya yung satisfaction ng mga rider ng Uber kesa taxi na may napakalalaking markings.
LTFRB, ang masasabi ko lang e magpakatotoo kayo, pwede ba?….para sa kapakanan ng mas nakararami. Feeling ko sa inyo…..power tripping, sorry to say.
Tama ka sa lahat ng sinabi mo Ms. Liezl. A dress code of any sort have never and would never been a deterent for a taxi driver to abuse tjeir passenger. Mas effective pa yung apps. Uber can immediately act on any misconduct their partners act towards their passenger or the riding public, infact i know naka link ang uber sa network ng ating kapulisan and everybody knows that kaya sinong disente at matinong driver partner ang makakaisip mangwalanghiya ng pasahero nya. Ang mga taong gusto lang kumita ng disente at may dignidad ay hindi magiisip ng mga bagay na ikapapahamak nila at ng kanilang mga kliyente. Minsang nga sila pa yung naaabuso ng ilan nating kababayan na gumagamit ng apps bilang mga pasahero.
I’ts so disappointing na may mga rider din na abusado minumura driver pag na late lang ng konti, traffic is beyond our control. Hindi naman porke driver hindi na irrespeto. Irespeto mo para irespeto ka din. I just told my driver not retaliate thru bad words, mag sorry lang sya at share nya ang fruits of Holy Spirit, baka ma consensya pa at mahiya kay Lord.
Tama kaya nga ng uber para hinde mababoy ang sasakyan ang mgkaroon ng extra income pag nilagyan ng mga markings ang mga sasakyan na private e hinde na private yun mas maganda bumili na lng ng taxi sa tingin lalong dadami mga colorum na sasakyan sa uv express hinde na makakuha ng linya kaya ung iba bumili ng private car para pang uber tapos ganun pala mangyayari sablay na ang uber
I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the UBER operators like me will not
continue. Also with most of the UBER riders wouldn’t like this. They prefer of
course to ride with a hired vehicle without markings, as they feel more safe and
confident and there is some degree of prestige in such.
No to “MARKINGS!” The idea is absurd!
Very disgusting! Nag aantay plng ako ng approval parang ayaw ko na. wag nyo naman itulad sa taxi! anu pa difference nun kpag inimplement nyo un markings na yan? isip isip din.. kpag natuloy yan withdraw ko na application ko.
This should be addressed. LTFRB numbers are useless. This is the reason why people are relying on uber because it is more reliable.
It is very sad to hear about this news. Will no longer continue to partner with Uber. 🙁
Ang hirap talaga mag business dito sa pilipinas. Gobyerno naten utak lamok at mga ganid sa pera. Hindi ko na itutuloy ang uber application ko. Private car mo bababuyin ng ltfrb, eh d sana nag taxi ka na lang… Haay…. ibenta na lang ang pilipinas. Goodbye uber.
This is right…I think UBER management should act on this. Partners are counting on you.
I totally agree with you and all those who commented on this LTFRB issues kunu. It’s their way of slowly killing the Uber and to think na gagawa pala sila ng sariling version ng Uber para sila lang ang kumita. Kailan ba titino Pinas kung ang small entrep na gaya natin iaalisan pa ng chance para guminhawa buhay.
This is the end of uber.
Uber are private cars to serve the public, but this memoramdum neglects its sense.
Removable markings during pre-arranged trip INSIDE the car are understandable to protect the public but permanent marking outside the car pretermit primary purpose of TNVS.
Please help clarify the markings required at the Rear windshield (upper portion) and at both sides”, are these inside or outside the vehicle.
We asked LTFRB and the response is OUTSIDE. We shared the clarifications in the article.
What is No.3 in the article which says: ” All PUVs except TNVS ( during pre-arrange ride ) shall also indicate…”?
I think it simply says that TNVS are not part of the OUTSIDE markings, isn’t it?
Further in No. 4, ” All PUVs including TNVS ( during pre-arrange ride ) shall be required to paint/display the following information INSIDE the car “.
Logically, TNVS are not totally PUVs though they may serve public but they have the option to when to serve or not since they are really private vehicles. So removable marking maybe valid ONLY WHEN IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
Please raise an appeal with LTFRB, in order to fight for the right of UBER partners. Otherwise, business will be lost.
I believe No.3 means TNVS don’t need to put the “maximum number of passengers” only. Markings OUTSIDE are still required please read No. 2 and 1.b 🙂
Then read LTFRB’s response to our question if the markimgs for sedans are INSIDE or OUTSIDE
Item no. 2 indicates “DURING PRE-ARRANGED TRIP”, does it mean that markings OUTSIDE are also removable? How can we put removable markings outside the vehicle, kindly give us an idea?
We’re looking into magnetic signages much like what those refrigerator magnet souvenirs. That’s UberMNLTips’ hack for this. 😉
If ltfrb is after the safety of the riding public, in response to their memo.this is all bullshit.the riders are perfectly comfortable with the information their getting from uber apps. Plate #,drivers name, etc..etc. the truth is gusto talaga nilang patayin ang uber at grab.,after this I won’t be surprised pag may bago uling requirements ang ltfrb.were not idiots not to understand all of this….
Goodbye Uber.. =( huhuhu
This was similar to the case of the UV express services before which initially started as a Garage Service until it became Vehicle for Hire and now became UV Express Service where they eventually required all vehicles to get a franchise.
You also have to pay at least 100,000 php for the franchise alone and will be required to get all those markings on your vehicle otherwise, huhulihin ka nila madalas if you don’t comply.
We already have an active account with UBER and is now working on the vehicle to use, however, assessing on this issue, I am now having second thoughts in continuing our partnership with UBER or this business in general.
This is another corrupt initiative of the government which not beneficial for everyone.
It clearly supersedes the TNVS purpose, I hope Uber will do something about it before it’s too late.
Then we will not have any difference with taxis in the Metro, I hope Uber will appeal to this ridiculous memo.
If it is removable it is ok Like what you said magnetic like in ref. And we ate not like puj and taxi we are private cars, and those ltfrb markings are useless try to contact those no. Nobody will answer .
I èxpected that much from a regulating agency that seems so highly deregulated. Where in the world would you see a hundred or so bus franchises running the city’s main hi-way with all their terminals right dead center?
The memo is a little confusing. One says that there should be markings outside while another says inside. Do we have to do both? If there will be permanent markings placed outside of my car,it’s uberoff.
Also, why is ltfrb promoting a hotline that doesn’t work? Uber responds way faster than them . You can’t even get a hold of someone nor can get their hotline ring.
Thanks.
Yes both. There should be marking outside (section 1.b) AND display inside (section 5).
Sobrang frustrating talaga nito. Tama naman yung isang nag comment dito, private car mo bababuyin ng ltfrb! Parang hindi na lumalayo sa mga taxi! Baka ang kasunod nyan pwede na din parahin sa kalsada ang uber! Tsk tsk tsk!
So frustrating. I’m a qualified marine instructor. I bought a new car (top if the line) because u want to drive and earn money to pay my monthly amortuzation. I had already had two cars but older than 2012. I love my new car. I think this is not a good idea to have private cars marjed with useless ltfrb nos. Then i will be same level with nitmal taxi drivers.
Whats the use of having tnvs. If uber drivers do not behave it’s up to uber to give them penalty or deactivate their account.
As for myself i cannot misbegave myself since my car is hulugan.
Kung protection ang purpose ng numbers na yun, mas protektado na yung Uber riders since may info sila about the profile ng driver, di ba?
This is an obvious case of bullying.
sad naman sa ibang bansa ba na may UBER. ganyan din ba.
If this is the way ltfrb treating UBER, then I’m out. Government agency like ltfrb are not helping to people.
We dont have choice but t follow the rules its a part of business. Just give us a sample format for markings.
Sana Taxi nlang applyan mo hindi uber
Kapag nagkataon tayo lang ang bansa na may Uber na may ganyan…it will be UberOff for me ipu~push nyo yung ganyan at hayaang lamunin kayo ng mga croc’s sa ltfrb…goodluck guy’s…thanks sa mga pasaherong mga napasaya ko at safe na naihatid.
This is ridiculous! If this is the case, we will not proceed with our uber application anymore. I hope uber does something about this.
uber is now a taxi?
its no longer a ride sharing.
putting “markings” outside the vehicle, is not a good news and it will be the end for some Uber partner operator…
Maybe you can negotiate with ltfrb if we can just place the markings just inside our vehicle. Definitely not outside because we are private vehicles.
Magnetic markings are fine.
Kung paparahin tayo ng pasahero ok lang.. eh through phone ang transaction e… mga bobo talaga yang mga ltfrb buser
hi uber guys, do you have actual samples of this markings from your active partners? just to visualize it clearly.
Sayang, prestige pa naman na no markings. No more difference between Taxi and uber. Sayang.
I agree to the comment of one uber partner if the markings are for inside only. Magmumukhang taxi na ang uber pag nilagyan ng markings sa labas. Besides transactions were being done nman privately. Dun nman sa markings s back windshield ok lng din nman as long as its also removable. We can use friction sticker for this. Pero yung permanent marking outside… It’s a NO! NO! Ubers should still be considered as PRIVATE CAR. Uber management should take their stand on this. Compromise eka nga.
Not pushing thru with my application as well. This memorandum is ridiculous. It misses the whole point of ride sharing.
Private po ang UBER hindi po Public fyi lng po.
Uber vehicles are under the TNVS category of public transport. 🙂
Julio… Admitted n,ang uber ay nakalinya sa mga taxi… Yung my gusto sa patakaran.. Just go on… Yung ayaw,naman wag nang mag comment ng di maganda.. Para hndi ma open yung iba
Kalokohan. The business itself isn’t profitable anymore, then we have to deal with ltfrb requirements that go against the very core of ride-sharing. Model works in the states but here in pinas where most partners have a driver (with a 60-40 split), wala nang kita. Tapos lalagyan pa ngayon ng markings. Ayawan na.
Hi admin – what’s Uber’s official word on all this??
None yet. Let’s wait for it
Any news on this? Thanks
Agree with Jona, maybe we can negotiate this issue with LTFRB? We are not public vehicles but PRIVATE. Currently processing my application with UBER, hoping we can fix this.
What is Uber management gonna do about it? Will you protect us from this nonsense? What are markings for? We are only visible online don’t they know that? what is this? Are they trying to make themselves look authoritative? They can’t even regulate the service of jeepneys and taxis all these years! Has anything improved while they “regulated ” the transport franchise business? The quality of the service suffered through the years and they never took action to improve on it. Or maybe that’s not part of their job? Their job is simply to collect? now all of a sudden they will impose markings on uber cars? I wanna be proven wrong because I think the idea is nonsense. Let them explain the virtue of markings and show us it’s not a stupid idea. Meanwhile, Uber management, please don’t let them impose things just because they are a government institution. uber is redefining the transport system, using the latest technology. This is an improvement to an industry that they have left rotting. Now they want to impose nonsense? Please don’t let this happen.
I agree with you Mr. Gutierrez. They can’t even regulate anything like jeeps, buses, taxis, even tricycles. So this time, they’d like to have their hands on Uber so they can make a mess out of it like the way they messed up the other transportation groups and got buckets of money out of it into their own pockets.
Hi Uber!
Please enlighten me with regards on the markings on the rear windshield? Does it mean 3 markings? ( one at upper) rear windshield and the other two will be at the rear window of the car? If this is removable, I understand that Uber suggested to make customized just like from ref magnets, I didn’t get this one because magnets will not stick in glass (windows/windshield), what do you call that kind of magnets that you are suggesting. what is the specific name of it?
I hope abiding by the rules, we can also pick up passenger from the airport because we are no difference from other white/yellow taxis with all these marking, the essence of the private car was long gone. PLEASE FIGHT FOR IT UBER!!
Please also enlighten me with the 20% discount for senior citizen and student, does it mean the credit card owner should be the senior citizen/student to avail the discount? What if the person who queue for a ride is a senior citizen/student but the rider , he or she queued for is not a senior citizen or a student?
Guess this 20% discount thing is the next update for UBER?
Your response will be highly appreciated.
Ayawan na…Hindi na über on!uber off nako!
I think we should be united to oppose on that matter. Uber should take a huge step to stop ltfrb in treating us as puv, we are just trying to help the rider to have a choice on our freetime. In uber, strict implementation of a 5 star service to the rider are closely monitor 24/7. Now, The uber, the uber partner and the uber riders should act as one to opposed the gov’t .
Wala na bang magawa at maisip na matino ang mga nagpapatupad nito??? Pilit natin pinagaganda at gusto naman nila babuyin!! Uberoff na karamihan nyan kung di man lahat! Yung mga maguumpisa na sana tulad ko ay hindi na lang muna?!
I don’t think our riders will like our cars plastered with these signs.
Half the reason the public are using Uber is because they don’t like taxis.
My riders have told me, they like turning up to an event or party in a nice vehicle.
They want like our cars plastered with advertising.
Also they like that its private, meaning that no one knows their in a vehicle their paying a fare on, another reason they don’t like cab. Especially in the city…
If this crap will continue, Uber will loose their partners eventually…Nasa app lahat ng info bakit pa igagaya sa puj, bus at taxi…
LTFRB will put markings on my car? This is ridiculous! Wala na ngang kita then ngayon nman bababuyin pa sasakyan ko? Utak talangka talaga tong gobyerno ng Pilipinas. Mga kurakot! Ltfrb are not helping people. Uber should do something about this nonsense. Pag nagtuloy tuloy parin tong kalokohan na to then goodbye uber
What’s your response and your plans about this admin? You should be firm on your stand that that’s not how the uber business operate and work. Please protect the uber partners or else these business will die. The customers should contact the uber if they have any concerns regarding their trip or uber partner not the ltfrb. Because Uber should be the middle man between the customers and ltfrb. The ltfrb should understand and respect how this business work and uber should not let the ltfrb dictate them on what to do, what rules should be implemented even manipulating and changing the uber’s own rules and regulations. Remember, we are using private vehicles here. If you don’t protect this business and your partners, better change the name from uber mnl to LTFRB MNL.
Bakit kaya si admin parang masaya pa? siguro nagtataxi ka noh?! lol. pero taena talaga dami ko na nagastang pera at oras sa application ng uber ko tapos ganito lang pala mangyayari, pati amortization ng accent ko kasisimula ko lang tapos lalagyan lang ng call taenang ltfrb hotline na yan!!!! eh wala naman silbi yung hotline nila e. Mga call center nila bisaya na walang alam at ang hirap pa kontakin tapos pag may nireport kang barumbadong jeepney or taxi driver, labas lang sa kabilang tenga nila walang nangyayari! taena naman talaga yan oh! dapat sa mga taga gobyerno i firing squad sa luneta eh, tapos nasa gitna yung abnoy na pnoy na yun eh, pati tax ayaw nya pabawasan para mas marami mauwi mga empleyado. Kung anu anu na nasasabi ko, siguro frustrated na talaga ako eh, kakakuha ko lang kasi ng accent ko tapos ganito lang pala. huhuhu. pag nakita ko c pinoy sagasaan ko yung ayup na yun eh pati director ng ltfrb. Lakas talaga ng mga association ng mga taxi at jeep sa gobyerno. Sila sigurado ang nagpetisyon nito sa uber. In the end mautak nga naman yung mga 1 utak na yun. huhuhu =(
Wala po kami taxi Sir. Uber Partner din po kami. Sana po na-appreciate nyo na binibigay namin sa inyo ang mga ganitong balita na ni si Uber, Grab or LTFRB walang effort na ipaalam sa inyo. 🙁
Kung cno pa ung mga nasa pwesto at nakaupo cla p ang mga bobo at d marun0ng umintindi at ubod ng manhid. Wala ng pag asa tlga gobyerno natin.
Sa susunod yellow plates na and plaka natin
DEAD BUSINESS UBER! UBEROFF! RIP UBER!
I’m sorry uber if this will happen its a GOODBYE. UBER is worldwide and i tried uber in other country and its a private car as it ses and we promise riders! NO MARKINGS AT ALL! first of all its a private car why the heck will we put markings on our private cars! KA CHEAPAN NG PILIPINAS!!! 2nd do you think the passengers would like to ride in a private service with MARKINGS like taxi? especially in such events? 5 STAR HOTEL PICK UP SERVICE? HAHA EEEEWWWW! UBER, i think you’re the only one who could deal with our stupid corrupt government and i say if you don’t want to loose partners then make a way not to let this happen or else GOODBYE! i say BANKRUPT on your side. FOR US, we can still put our cars into RENT A CAR. not as much earning as like we have in uber but BETTER compare to BABUYAN MODE! so please UBER as a PARTNER please deal as much as you can not to let this happen. THANK YOU and that’s my disappointed and pissed opinion.
hindi nman lahat ng gusto ng ltfrb ay madusunid na, bababutin lang nla mga sasakyan ntib lahat,! dapat ayusin ng uber yan.
common! remember riders told that they choose to ride us because our cars is neat in and out? then we are gong to put markings on them ? eh d hindi n private and feel ng ride mo d b? thats a big no no no nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi po sa lahat, suggestion lang po kung pwede.
operator din po ako.
bakit ba ginagawa eto ng ltfrb? Para pag may complain or suggestions , tama po yun.
Ano ang gagamitin mo para mag complain o meron kang suggestion? Telephone di ba?
ano ba ang gamit ng pasahero ng uber? Telepono di ba.
bakit di nalang sa apps idagdag ang hotline ng ltfrb kagaya ng drivers rating sa ganun direkta na sa operator, uber at ltfrb.
at least kita na agad ng pasahero ang hotline at sa ganun hindi pa rin madudumihan ang sasakyan mo.
suggestion lang po.
Nice idea! Sana nga ganun na lang gawin.
Paano ang sasakyan k.. Bmw.. At land cruiser.. Gusto k lang ng extra money…. Lalagyan k prin b. Ng marking sign ng ltfrb
Sobrang talino talaga ng LTFRB, bakit di nyo subukang pagsamasamahin yang mga di nyo ngagamit na utak at ibenta nyo…cgurado yayaman kayo ng hindi kung ano ano naiisip nyo pra kumita. Isip isip din pag my time….
As an UBER rider, I totally disagree with this stupid idea of LTFRB. I understand that Uber is considered as PUV. However, there’s a big difference between a taxi, jeepney, buses or whatnot as PUVs compared to a private car servicing in public. And that’s what sets Uber and GrabCar apart from the regular PUVs. Uber and Grab have elevated and revolutionized the transportation here in the Philippines and that’s the reason why riders choose this ride sharing apps as part of their lives on a daily basis because of its image and the satisfactory service. Putting such trash on a private vehicle is totally ridiculous as this defeats the sole purpose of the business and its private image. UBER, you might want to hear out your UBER-Peers and UBER riders. Make an appeal to LTFRB. Don’t you have a word on this? This kind of situation jeopardizes not only your image but as well as your profit.
Someone should learn to speak up for once and oppose such process that is not favorable for both entrepreneurs and clients. We can only see two paths which is very apparent. It’s either amendments or loss of business.
We can’t continue to process all my documents..my car is a private. why you put puv? Baboyin nyo sasakyan namin?huh?oo nga pala c uber wala naman pakialam about sa car may pakialam lang sila sa 20% na kinikita nila.. heeeyyy uber kaya kami pumasok sainyo kci akala namin ay makaatikim na kami ng maginahawang buhay un pala kayo pa lalo nag pahirap samin.. p8nakagat nyo lang ang driver kunwari sa incentive nyo.. e pano naman kami mga operator?samin maintenance samin gas.tapos laspag p car namin.. pag dating ng 1 to 3yrs tatangalin nyo na sa uber.. waaaaa d ano naman nagyari samin????nabauon sa utang.. haizzt isip isip din kci.. kaya ngayon habang fpa uuli ang lahat.. tigil nalang cae
pag may markings public vehicles na, kadalasan pag public vehicles hahanapan ng violations kahit wala. malamang lagayan blues na para walang abala. e di lalaki kita ng enforcers at lto. mahusay! matalino nakaisip.
Good day.
Sayang naman yung pagka private car natin UBER? baka may way pa kayo gumawa ng steps para pag usapan ng husto yung plan nila to put marking? sa Singapore kasi wala? mayaman na country pero hindi sila agree sa mga markings na yan kasi nga protect the rider or customers. ako mag starting palang ng mga applications ko. pero positive padin ako sa UBER na maayos padin naman ito.
Best regards,
Joseph The Tarts
This is absurd! How does the gov’t let this non-sense happening…LTFRB is one of the largest “corrupt body/office” in the philippines…mahina na ba kita nila sa pagkuha ng driver’s license using their “friend fixers” kaya ba sa mga uber operator naman ang naisip nila na gamiting “gadget-to-steal”? Para kasing na depict na un purpose of these transportation facility. Why don’t they fixed muna un “kalokohan” inside their office before looking for another alibi?
Ano n,naman kaya ang susunod n.ibubutas sa uber..all partner operator watch the next step of ltfrb…kayong mga gago n pulitiko wag kayong makisawsaw dito hindi namin,kayo iboboto
dagdag kita lng yan sa LTFRB corrupt employees. kahit pa sabihing sa labas bibilhin ang mga marking na yan, my komisyon pa din sila jan.based on experience lng po being a UVexpress operator. sana mag isip naman ng maayos ang LTFRB, gines gamitin mo naman ang utak mo. ONLY IN THE PINAS NA MY MARKINGS ANG UBER, grabe talaga!!!
Admin sana magawan pa ng paraan yaan…nakakuha n ako ng vios sayang. Sira tlaga ulon ng goverment natin hnd nalang tayo pabayaan mha gonggong
Good morning, nkakuha na po ako ng copy ng new memorandum for PUV tanung ko lng po kung pati po ba adventure 2012 model uv express kaylangan dn po bang palitan yung marking nya?
Ang alam po namin, kasama din ang UV express. Lahat ng PUV
Yes i agree with other partners, if there will be markings on our private car then better not to
be on uber, sad but we cannot do anything about it. Hope LTFRB try to consider this ruling
We don’t need the markings whether those are inside or outside our vehicles. Uber covers all transactions online. We always have a reference by going to our uber accounts. Besides, uber has a system of rating drivers and escalating other concerns. Our system is way better than our crocs in the govt. I have faith in uber management. If we need to work with other groups such as grab, please feel free to do so. Just us let us know. – Concerned Uber Partner
opinion ko lng po ito. any comments, suggestions and violent reactions are welcome.
First, kahit anung salita na siguro ang ibato natin sa kahit anung ahensya ng gobyerno natin dito sa pilipinas wala nang mangyayari. manhid n po sila at ang tanging laman ng mga mapupurol, tuyot, singaw (at kung anu ano pa) na utak ng mga nakaupo dyan sa gobyerno ay kung paano nila mapupunan ang mga nagugutom na bulsa nila. sa totoo lng wala nman silang pakialam sa lipunan o sa mga tao, ang mahalaga lang sa kanila ay ang PERA ng taong bayan. hindi nman ho siguro kayo mga bulag at tanga (sorry for the wordings) para hindi makita.
Ganito lng po yan eh.. Sa tingin nyo ba kahit i-appeal ni UBER sa ltfrb yang required markings n yan (kahit hindi nman nararapat) ay mahihimok pa sila na wag ng ipatupad? I dont think so..para ka lng nagsayang ng laway kakadaldal sa isang taong hindi nman nakikinig sayo (as simple as that). At sa tingin nyo ho ba ilalabas ba nila ang memorandum na yan kung hindi pa sila desidido na ipatupad yan? ibig sabihin hindi na ho sila magbibigay ng pagkakataon sa mga tao n makaapila pa, wala k ng magagawa.
WALA NG PAGASA ang pilipinas na umangat o umunlad dahil talamak na ang corruption.
ikaw na individual na nangangarap umunlad ang buhay o kahit man lng makaahon ng kaunti sa hirap ay hanggang pangarap na lng.
Pangalawa, sa tingin ho ba natin may magagawa pa (o gagawin pa) si UBER para mapigilan ang LTFRB sa anu mang mga rules and conditions na gustong ipatupad nito? Sa accreditation pa lang wala ng nagawa si UBER kung hindi sumunod so, ibig sabihin nagpatali na si UBER sa LTFRB. UBER wont have any choice but to follow whatever rules the LTFRB would implement or else they loose the business (make sense?). Here’s another horriying/disgusting fact. Sa tingin ho ba natin UBER would care if we (drivers/partners/operators) follow or not the LTFRB’s rules? NO! because what’s important for them is they are able to cut 20% out of your earnings, whether you follow ltfrb’s rules or not.
Third, for us drivers/partners/operators, do we think may kikitain pa tayo sa business na to? siguro noong mga nakaraang buwan (from April to September) OO dahil sa mga incentives na binibigay ni UBER if you meet the weekly/daily quotas along with the requirements. pero unti unti nilang pinababa ang incentive hanggang sa mawala na pgdating ng October. Sa ngayon, kapag bumyahe ka and get only a normal rate (fare) parang abunado ka pa, kumita ka man hindi worh it. why? You’ll spend 1000php (average) for the whole day n byahe, hindi pa kasama gastos mo sa pagkain, inumin, laundry (for you daily clothing), cellphone load at kung anu ano pa. Then, let say kumita ka ng 1500 to 1700php (normal rates lng to walang surge) sa loob ng 12 to 16 hours tapos kakaltasan ka pa ng 20% ni UBER. Try nyo po icompute kung magkanu kikitain in a day and think if feasible pa ba ang business na to. Probably, others would ask what about during peaks hours and may SURGE. Okay, sabihin na nating may makuha kang trip na may surge rate na x1.5 (1 out 10 or 15 lng ang rider na kumakagat sa surge rate na x1.7 pataas, tama o mali?). isama mo na ang trapik during the trip, distance at duration.
example computation:
10km + 45mins x 1.5 (surge rate) + 40 base fare – 20% = ?
after ng trip na may surge rate, next trip na nakuha mo was normal rate lang and the trip took more than an hour because of the disgusting traffic condition. good luck sayo.
Do we think it still worth the effort and the time? Think again.
FTFG
I hate to admit pero ang sinabi nya ang reality. Maiipit tayo lahat dahil sa kawalang hiyaan ng pamamalakad dito sa atin.
Mas mabilis pang makontak ang uber at makakuha ng response kesa LTFRB!! Wla rin kwentang lagyan ng markings ang mga private car kasi hindi nakokontak ang mga bobong LTFRB na yan! Wla nmn cla ngwa s mga issue dati n mga report n taxing ngsspray ng pabango eh , ngaun mas ligtas sa uber ang mga pasahero ggawin nilang prang mga taxi. Wla tlgng mgwang magaling ang gobyerno ng pilipinas!
admin why did you remove my comments without any notifications?
This is another ridiculous provision by LTFRB. May utak ba mga tao doon? Kaya nga ride sharing e. Riders already know that they are safe even without those shitty markings that when you try and text or call those numbers no one even answers. It’s a useless marking. Also, we are private cars that’s why we joined Uber. We’d like to have our cars to look as private as possible. And Uber riders like that especially.
I do hope that the voices of Uber Partners and Uber Riders ( I’m a rider myself who joined Uber as a partner) be heard through you, Uber or Grab. This is too much. We gave a hand, now they want the whole arm.
magkaisa tau mga partners sa gustong mangyari ng ltfrb.wag tau pumayag. umpisa na na lalamunin tau ngbulok na ng corruption yan.sunod nyan ay frankisa na.lalamunin tau na bulok na sistema.useless yang mga markings na yan.magkaisa tau nga partners!!!
I agree. Magkaisa tayo pero where do we start? Will you back us up, Uber admin?
kung pagmumukain nilang taxi mga auto dapat ang rate ni uber parehas narin sa taxi o mas mahal pa dhil free pick up sa eskinita mga pasahero kung pwede lang sa loob mo pa ng bahay pickupin e..
kulamos on November 15, 2015 at 6:04 pm
kung pagmumukain nilang taxi mga auto dapat ang rate ni uber parehas narin sa taxi o mas mahal pa dhil free pick up sa eskinita mga pasahero kung pwede lang sa loob mo pa ng bahay pickupin e..
I definitely agree on this.
no bad feelings po sana from the riders pero ito kasi ang isa sa mga issues ng mga drivers. bukod sa mababang rate (na hindi pinapansin dati dahil nagbibigay p ng incentives si UBER) kelangan p pickupin sa loob ng village or mga eskinita (minsan masisikip) ang mga riders. hindi naman kasi bayad ung travel from current location ng driver going to the pick up location ng rider.ok lng sana kung less than 5minutes away lang at walang trapik. pero madalas 10 to 15minutes away ang pick up at trapik pa. Isama mo pa ang 20% deduction ni UBER. Ending walang kinita si driver/partner/operator. si UBER lng kumita.
Going back to the ltfrb marking issue. wala nman ho talagang maitutulong (to either rider or driver) ang mga markings n yan (regardless if its permanent or temporary). safe and secured na ang mga riders with UBER’s existing app security features kaya hindi na dapat makialam ang ltfrb.
LTFRB kung pwede manahimik ka na lang sa lungga mo (lahat kayong mga buwayang nakaupo dyan na mga utak kulangot!) hindi pa kayo patay pero sinusunog na mga kaluluwa nyo. kinukulang na ba kayo ng pundo para sa mga bisyo nyo at kelangan nyo nang gipitin ang mga individual na nangpapakiharap kumita ng maliit na pera makasurvive lang? mas makapal pa sa mga kalsadang gawa dito sa pilipinas ang mga mukha nyo.yong kalsada madaling madurog pero mga mukha nyo wala yatang makakadurog eh.mga inutil!
can anybody clarify if the outside markings needs to be permanent (painted)?
No. It can be temporary.
It will be a big turn off to partners!
does UBER or GRAB has challenged the action of LTFRB, legally? because the purpose and objective of the memorandum is to protect the riding public. the big question is “Which gives more protection to the riders, the markings or the system of the UBER AND GRAB?” under the current system UBER AND GRAB gives more protection than the “MARKINGS”. the markings does not even work as intended, in most cases markings are ignored by the riders. with UBER OR GRAB the riders could easily recall all information by the driver and the car through the system of the UBER OR GRAB.
I think with all the clamor dito masusubukan kung may care ang uber sa atin. They are in a position to negotiate and put sense sa mga utak ng tao sa LTFRB. Alam nating lahat na mas effective ang uber app than stupid markings kung rider safety and security lang ang pag-uusapan. It’s bad enough na bigla na lang nawala yung incentives. Ngayon pilit na binababa ng LTFRB ang standards sa level na alam nating bulok. Nag mamagaling na wala sa lugar ang mga nasa position.
These numbers are useless. nobody ever calls to complain bec everyone knows it’s a waste of time. Uber and Grab does a great job already policing its people so why bother. This is the end of ride-sharing.
Actually riders are safe than our partners/drivers? Why? grabe sa dami ng papers na naisubmit sa UBER di pa ba sila maging safe niyan? At take note our riders are PRIVATE individual needs PRIVATE and SAFE vehicle too.They TRUST UBER….UBER must Talk to LTFRB regarding before implementing this rules; LTFRB can contact UBER if they have PROBLEMs encountered by riders..BEC all the info needed was already submitted to UBER.. sana magawan at magkaroon ng ACTION ang UBER regarding this matter or else TRUST of RIDERS at UBER will LOST..
Can uber instead propose they setup hotline which will autimatically notify concerned govt (altho oximoronic to think if govt is really concerned like those ltfrb hotline that diesnt work accdg to the experience as said by people here)
The TNVS registration under the name of the orcr holder is right.
And the removable markings inside which should be available for riders is not too bad
Wala akong nakikitang magandang rason kung bakit iniimplement to ng gobyerno! Sino makikinabang nito? Si rider? Hindi to kailangan ni rider since lahat ng info nasa app na. Mga buwayang taga gobyerno at buwayang inforcer lng ang makikinabang nito. Pwede lng nilang gawin to sa taxis, jeep and other PUVs since walang ibang mabilis na paraan para maireport ni rider si abusadong driver. Sa uber at grab, part na ito ng feature ng app, napakabilis mgreport at mgaksyon ni uber. hindi mo kailangan tingnan ang markings, nakikita ang name at picture ng driver, at plate number ng sasakyan at nakasave pa ito sa history ng app. Anytime pwede kang mgcomplain. Uber please do something!
Uber needs to act on this. We will lose a large number of passengers who wants the prestige of riding Uber instead of taxi, furthermore, as a partner I will only get the cheapest line of cars for use on Uber so that’s ba was points for Uber.
Uber is private, permanent markings is for public, bobo ng ltfrb, hindi makaintindi, gagayahin nila sa taxi? Charot lang yan.
di pa ako nakapag umpisa dahil wala pa akong PA alalahanin natin ang uber ay private vehicles . kung magkakaroon ng markings sa labas ,baka maraming magba backp out lalo na uber black at suv’s . di naman kasi yung iba full time, di ba yun din ang slogan ng uber drive kung kailan mo gusto ? dapat siguro i appeal ng uber ang memo na ito. puede siguro sa loob yung magnetic na markings. at isa pa mahirap manloko ng riders ang uber partners dahil pati riders alam nila ang complete details ng driver at vehicle pag kumuha sila, di ba? ang maganda sigurong gawin ng uber ay i appeal ang memo na ito otherwise baka marami ang mag backout. sa loob ok lang ang magnetic markings .o kaya sticker na lang na sa windshield lang ilalagay mas acceptable siguro yun sa mga uber operators. yung sticker size yung madaling ma identify huwag naman sana yung malaking malaki
salamat po i hope uber will consider my suggestion for the benifit of uber and uber-operators- partners
ayaw na ako…matuwad na daan at pamamaraan/ uber off!
I think UBER management should act on this. Partners are counting on you…However, if this will be strictly implemented, then it will be the end as Uber partner operator for me.
kung ganito mangyyari hindi na UBER yon sana nag taxi or UV na lng kasi sure pa yung income where in high demand lalo na uv express , kaya nga sa uber ako nag join kasi i can use my car privately and just to earn extra income and thats what UBER offer diba….
1. The very reason why Uber became a hit is because it is safe and secure for both drivers and riders. THAT SAFETY IS SOMETHING NO LTFRB MARKING/HOTLINE CAN OFFER AS EVIDENT IN THE CURRENT TAXI SITUATION. So putting those has no point. Let the LFTRB be aware that if riders have complaints, they report straight to Uber and Uber responds very promptly that the day will not end without getting an action. I doubt LTFRB can provide such quick response. Yes! People has no faith in your abilities. So unless you can convince a majority of uber riders AND drivers that those markings are EFFECTIVE and NECESSARY, let the people, who you supposedly serve, provide for our own safety.
2. Not all Uber vehicles are operating full-time. You do not want your Fortuner or Montero vandalized right? Think!
3. Transportation has changed. Do not pull it back in a rut. Your standards do not apply here because your standards have been proven to be useless!
Good day..it’s frustrating to read all of these comments. I wouldn’t consider myself an operator until my TNVS application has been approved by LTFRB yet, but if I may say that with their current ruling will somehow might lead to putting yellow plates on Uber vehicles. What would hinder them to implement this? I could only say “that’s life in the Phillipines!”
sana man lang maibigay na ni UBER yung payment ko noong october 12 and ocotber 19 pa.. 1 month na wala parin yung payment nyo.. UBERDELAY KAYO!!!
Kindly email Uber directly at
This is insane. Hay Pilipinas ayaw yta nla paunlarin tlga. Sana hndi ito mtuloy. 🙁
If it will have markings similar to PUV, then it’s not UBER anymore.
I think hindi na ito maganda para sa whole concept ng uber. Nakakalungkot.
ok lang kung magnetics marking pero kung permanent marking medyo malabo.
Di ako sang ayon sa markings di ba sabi nga ito ang makabago sistema ng transport. Tsaka di natin kailangan ng markings kasi kumukuha tayo ng pasahero gamit ang internet di tayo pumipik-up sa tabi tabi so di natin kailangan ng markings para makita nila. Pangalawa bakit kailangan ilagay ang contact number nila eh sa sistema lang ng uber madaling malaman ang info ng driver at pasenger dahil sa makabagong sistema nga. Dapat ipa intindi iyan sa ltfrb na pag may reklamo ang pasahero madaling malaman kung sino. Pangatlo pag di umaksiyon jg malupit ang uber dito baka magulat na lang uli tayo na required na rin tayo na palitan ang plaka natin sa dilaw. Ang kailangan lang naman nila ay maregister at masingil ng pera ang mga uber partners. Bagong sistema ang uber di natin kailangan sumunod sa makaluma nilang sistema. Kailangan lalong manindigan ng uber sa sitwasyong ito.
TNVS should not be considered as public transportation because it does not serve majority of the public but only for those who have credit cards or shall we say middle class riders wherein they can’t afford to put their safety and security at risks. Riders safety is at stake here especially that the public is not assured of their safety. Government should focus on safety & security of their constituents. About the markings, there’s no need to have it on TNVS because Uber app itself has that information and all riders has the copy of the plate no of the car, profile of the driver, trip history and etc..so what’s the purpose of that markings?
Bakit yun mga hotel car service wala naman markings? Sticker lang sa windshield ang nakalagay, di ba public transport din yun?
Lalo na dto sa Cavite yung mga Van dto wla naman marking public transport din.. dami dto mas marami pa sa UV express..
Persons with disabilities like me are the ones who benefit most from
this transportation service from Uber, it makes us feel safe and free from arrogant taxi drivers who sometimes refuse to take us in. As far as identifying the vehicles as
uber rides, this would actually expose us, i.e. that we are travelling alone and easy
prey to hold uppers and robbers. An incident happened to me once inside a taxi when someone tried to open my door by inserting his hand inside the window of the driver and the driver did not do anything! Whereas, if inside a private car, I feel
safer that people do not know that I travel by myself. I hope LTFRB Chairman Gines would reconsider this Memo circular.
I don’t agree with this memo. Kaya nga kami nag Uber para Hindi magmukhang ordinary taxi ang sasakyan namin. At para magamit pa rin namin privately ang sasakyan. Kung ganyan nman pala eh di sana nagtaxi nalang talaga kami. Hindi na sana kami nag Uber. Saka kung for safety purposes un, bakit ung mga ordinary taxi matagal nang may markings pero marami pa rin ang nadidisgrasya o naaabuso sa kanila, both driver and riders. Di nman nla nasolusyunan ang mga krimen sa mga taxi. OK nman ang standards ng Uber for the safety of riders and drivers. Uber should act on this matter. We have complied all their requirements nung sinabi nlang dapat may franchise, wag naman na nilang isama pa ung markings!
I can understand why no Uber driver would want their private car to have painted writing on the body itself. I don’t think LTRFB would accept magnetic plates because they could easily fall off or be removed by people outside the car. The only solution I can think of is some kind of plate attached to the car with screws which doesn’t damage the bodywork itself. The plate could be removed without leaving ugly marks when the vehicle is used privately.
having magnetic magnetic sheet would not be practical. At first maybe, but on in the long run. Magnetic sheets are not cheap. street kids can easily peel them off and run away with it.
I just called their “hotline” numbers…. and guess what? it rings once then goes busy…
Personally, trying to impose something that does not work is plain stupidity. Based on the memorandum, the markings are intended to prevent or minimize abusive drivers. I strongly believe that UBER already has this in covered through the UBER app and rider-driver rating / feedback system, which I find more efficient that LTFRB’s markings (which, again, DOES NOT WORK!!!)
Please Uber admin, protect us as your partner.. we do not agree on permanent markings.
NO!this is a big NO.LTFRB sucks!they don’t help people.they implementing rules for their own sake.
Its a big NO NO!!!!. Kung maipapatupad man ito.. ito na rin ang good bye uber namin…
I wanted to buy uber blacks, but will not. pangit fortuner na may tatak ltfrb.
law abiding citizens are always penalized.
daming colorum sa metro manila at kapaligiran, free from ltfrb shit.
pag wala nang colorum, puede na siguro new rules for tnvs.
Personally this negates the fact that UBER was created for licensed private cars to be accessible for commuters. It was meant for the safety of the passengers and convenience of its partners. This ruling just seems a little off-putting because it indirectly suggests that LFTRB will slowly penetrate this market forprofit purposes of sorts. Hope UBER can find a fix for this not to continue.
Paano na kung SUV ang sasakyan mo lagyan mo ba ng markings no way… bye bye uber balik OFW uli ako… sayang SUV ko bababuyin lang ng LTFRB
hindi ako sang ayon sa pinatutupad nila memorandum ng ltfrb. agree ako sa lahat ng mga sinabi ng mga uber partners operator. sa panahon ngayon dapat hightech na ang pangit tignan kung magiging kamukha lang taxi sa tabi tabi mag isip isip naman kayo.
A big NO!!!!!! Reason why we are riding UBER is because we want to feel that we are riding on a private car. UBER is more reliable in handling the complaints of the rider compared to texting or calling LTFRB. I had an experience before that my issue was not address because I need to attend the hearing. Please wag nyo po hayaan na lagyan nila kayo ng marks.
Simpleng example lang. If you take a taxi and you encounter a problem you have to jot down the name of the taxi and plate number then report to LTFRB, KUNG nagawa mo pang isulat o kunan ng picture yung markings sa loob o labas ng taxi. Sa uber bago ka pa sumakay hawak mo na ang lahat ng info pati picture ng driver. hawak na ng uber lahat ng details kung gusto nila habulin. So paki tanong sa magagaling na taga LTFRB, alin ang mas effective at efficient.
I would say No, because the markings only applies to public vehicles while Uber cars are still owned by private individuals so they have the right to say no to it. If the goal is to ask riders about their driving experience, they should review the Information Architecture/Structure of the Uber App. There’s a scenario where every rider needs to rate every ride they booked, this is the same thing with “How’s my driving” marking on the puvs just presented in a different way. I am a designer myself, it’s important to know the message being delivered but also present it in different ways.
I think it’s another way for the LTFRB to make money, abusive of their power to regulate such rules even when the rules are not being implemented to the sectors that falls into the right category.
Definitely not in favor! Uber management please do something about this. :'(
Why don’t we also see/hear from the rider/customer’s side about this. Admin….please request all rider/customer to give/share their comments on this matter.
We got you covered. We sent an email update to our Rider subscribers in our email list. 😉
Simpleng example lang. If you take a taxi and you encounter a problem you have to jot down the name of the taxi and plate number then report to LTFRB, KUNG nagawa mo pang isulat o kunan ng picture yung markings sa loob o labas ng taxi. Sa uber bago ka pa sumakay hawak mo na ang lahat ng info pati picture ng driver. hawak na ng uber lahat ng details kung gusto nila habulin. So paki tanong sa magagaling na taga LTFRB, alin ang mas effective at efficient.
What’s wrong with these guys…it makes no sense to me, Uber is a ride sharing mode of transpo….all info on the car and driver is readily available on the cellphone of the riders, so why need to plaster a good looking car with all those non-sense useless ltfrb hotline numbers…to ltfrb think tanks, why fix it if it aint broke?….just focus on those damn taxi drivers who drive cabs with huge markings that rob and rape hapless passengers…just telling the truth men.
Big NO
hi sir marco
i think you got it wrong. this memo was applied to existing “PUV’s” a couple of years ago and only implemented strictly now. here in marikina city sticker makers and printers had their fill lately of clients e.g. shuttle, fx, taxi and more. in my opinion sec 1b is for existing PUV’s and not us TNVS.
We are included in Section 2 however this is not permanent its the “trade dress” w/c is mentioned in TNVS memo i think in 2015 -017?..(forgot).. the trade dress is the Uber logo being displayed by drivers like in the states and london during “pre arranged rides”.. it can also be obtained thru Momentum Magazine..its Ubers new publication designed specifically for Uber Partners. https://newsroom.uber.com/2015/03/introducing-momentum-magazine/ .. i believe the markings like LTFRB..fares and etc. will only be added to this logo “trade dress”.. and not on the vehicle. Riders like riding unmarked vehicles maybe for privacy, safety or just plain…RIDESHARING
hi ka-ubers
i’ve been a partner driver since August of 2014. We had our share of the ups and downs of being a partner..met fellow would be and excited partners at Sunlife financial bldg (former uber office) and was manned by only 3 personnels like Mikel, Laurence and forgot her name. There were only a few of us like 15 persons attending the onboardings, actual vehicle inspection and IPad issuance..i also saw some of the fellow partners who gave up and have their vehicles repossess due to incentives where stopped without any notice, we where then making trips. for almost 3 months with fares lower than that of taxicabs. It was a test of enduring the hardship… now with all that we experienced and achieved.. overcoming obstacles suddenly our operation is almost legal… my point is let us share news ideas and opinions in a careful, well studied and responsible manner and not start an issue that will bring anxiety and negative thoughts… Lets have a positive disposition on things that matter to us as partners/drivers…this is the future of the transportation sector..Mobility as a Service..Rideshare thru relays.. the right to choose.. shake the transport sector by abolishing the Boundary system. let ordinary drivers be their own boss too and Your Car U Drive…just sharing my opinion ka-ubers.
Please see section 1.b under Location, it says “rear windshield upper portion and at both sides.”
Let’s hope you’re right and it’s only “on the trade dress that is TNCs logo” 🙂
I don’t agree with that idea. Private transport tyo e. Bakit kelangan nun. And besides mag email lang ang mga riders natinsa uber. I’m sure, uber’s response time is way better than LTFRB. so no need for those stickers.
uber initiate a petition to the president mismo and let the riders and partners/drivers sign this petition to let them know that this unfavorable ruling will become political this political season.
No way…
Hi….i strongly disagree with this new policy….badtrip….i hope uber’s management will do something about this. And hope to hear the result asap
Why the hell in the world do we need to put LTFRB markings??? You guys will ruin this business if you will have that kind of policy!!!
I dont think this is good for us partner operator. We are private vehicles who just wanted to help people to bring them safely to where they are going to. These markings or numbers of LTFRB are useless. You try to call them up, nobody is answering. How can they say that the public is safe if you cannot reach them during emergencies?
Uber operates in more developed nations. If we like to become a developed nation, let’s just follow their example. Why should we be different? It’s our government that needs to improve, not Uber, I don’t think Uber is the one that has corruption, incompetence, and inefficiency issues.
A big NO on the LTFRB markings. Rider’s are safe already with Uber rides. Driver and rider can rate each other using Uber Ap. Numbers of LTFRB are useless. Try to call them up… always busy. Or you may include the LTFRB numbers in Uber Ap so it will become visible to riders.
A Big “NO”… I think UBER management should act on this. bakit kailangan baguhin patakaran ng UBER sa ibang bansa nman hindi sila pinwersa ng country nila na lagyan ng kalokohang steaker na yan para lng sa anong dahilan??.. para din kumita ang gobyerno?.. sobra nman ito… hindi na nalalayo ang class ng uber sa mga regular na taxi.. sa isang banda parang malalagay pa sa kapahamakan ang mga sasakyan nmin dahil madali ng makilala ng mga masasamang loob na pangpasahero ang kotse nmin at dahilan payan ng pag ka holdup at carnap ng sasakyan nmin… Please UBER management hwag kayo pumayag…
baka naman susunod na jan pati color ng vehicle ay i-require na white like taxi….(: (:
That’s a strong possibility.
OA nman yan ltfrb, meron na dress code ng uber meaning on service yong vehicle.naghahanap tlaga cla pagkakaperahan.
Get the media’s attention on this. Let the uber riding population speak.
I disagree on LTFRB’s ruling re:markings. For one, TNVS should not to be categorized as PUVs because TNVS are private vehicles accredited to a TNC for public use but not on a fulltime basis they are still primarily PRIVATE VEHICLES. Thus, I think TNVS are accountable to TNCs where they are accredited and TNCs are accountable to LTFRB. Following that order of accountability, TNCs should propose & submit guidelines to LTFRB on how they will police TNVS for the protection of the riding public, and these guidelines should not include markings as a requirement in consideration to private vehicle owners. So, I suggest that TNCs need to have a talk with LTFRB re:markings & other similar concerns to differentiate PUVs from TNVS. Currently, TNCs are doing a great job in implementing discipline to their accredited TNVS through their seminars for both operator & drivers and the rating system which is nonexistent to most, if not all, PUVs which is probably the reason why most, if not all, PUV drivers are undisciplined (pasaway). Hey, LTFRB people, wake up to this reality: TNCs are better in terms of implementation of discipline and public safety. The riding public, including me, can attest to the fact that we feel good everytime we get an UBER/GRAB ride, instead of any PUVs, in general. This means that “markings” are irrelevant at all for whatever reason you might say.
Hey speak up GRAB/UBER in behalf of your Peers/Partners. You are the rightful party to stop this from happening.
They are slowly turning Uber into public transportation. Private citizens na nga nagmamalasakit para sa ikauunlad ng transportation, and yet… CRAB MENTALITY ang government!!! It’s supposed to be private vehicles for the use of public through apps. I will never put my brand new car which I use privately just so LTFRB can put their useless numbers on it. It’s totally not an option. Iniingatan nga wag magasgasan tapos bababuyin naman. NO WAY!!!
A big NO NO! I don’t want to mark my baby. As uber partner we are distinguish as elite ride compare to TAXI if we have those markings riders may feel that they just ride an ordinary experience.
Also, most of the riders are using uber for their events it will definitely not attract them if we do have markings.
Please do not implement this.
where in the world are uber vehicles required to do so? LTFRB is out of this world. these are by nature private vehicles on ride-sharing arrangements when not in use by owners. if not used for uber, and the owner uses it for personal trips, it is awkward to have such markings. as compromise, uber should convince LTFRB that temporary and removable markers be displayed only during uber trips.
there is no point of continuing Uber if this is implemented! we are not taxi. we are sharing our vehicle and they want us to label my car?! stupid people seating in the government.. no dofference from the stupid chairman of NAIA
nakakalungkot po na ito ang mga bagay na naiisip nila para maidentify tayu as ride-sharing. Pero wala naman akong naikitang significant effect para s ikkaunlad or ikakawala ng mga traffic o ikagagaan ng transportasyon. Sana mas magisip o magplano sila ng mas tama sa mas ikakaunlad ng ekonomiya.
I cannot agree. It will downgrade uber ride and will make it like riding an ordinary taxi experience.
kung ito ang tuluyang masusunod at matutupad ang kagustuhan ng LTFRB uber philippines ang mawawalan…sa dami ng operator partners ay mag aalisan at makikitay app nalang sila sa rent a car…kahit ako with my private car ayaw kung babuyin sa marking system baboy na sestema ng LTFRB na yan…GOOD LUCK UBER…
simpleng kabobohan at kawalang alam sa sistema ng UBER mga LTFRB….subukan nyo kasing mag UBER para malaman at mafeel nyo gaano kayo kasafe, e hawak nyo nga lahat ng info ng driver at unit na sasakyan nyo…hayyyssst
ayaw ko isipin parang may something ang taxi operator official and LTFRB para maging kumplikado ang situation ng mga nasa car sharing like uber and grabcar….just only my point of view
Magiging style taxi din pala ang sasakyan
Hi Uber,
kung alam ko lang agad na ganyan mangyayari sanay hindi na ako kumuha ng unit!
kaya nga may seminars kayo sa lahat ng drivers at ganun din sa mga partners nyo!
i dis Aggree! bale ba nka kuha na ako ng Unit! kung puro sulat or burdado ang car, pano ungmga VIP na sasakay parang nsa Ordinary car lang din sila? hay anu ba yan?
This makes Uber tacky and less appealing to the public who wants a discrete “taxi” ride. More importantly, uber partners are driving their private cars, so why put stickers or even cheap laminates on them? I am driving an Uber black vehicle and I will NEVER put anything on my vehicle to make it look like a taxi. It just takes out the class out of Uber.
Di nyo ba pinag isipan ang desisyong yan? kya nga may standard na pinatutupad ang uber mula pa sa maunlad na bansa ang operation nyan. bakit nyo itutulad sa commom taxi yan na puro burda ng LTFRB? una may standard model ang uber at pano magiging dignified ang mga pasahero kung wala na ring pinag iba sa taxi?. Sa taxi marami sa driver ay walang seminar at walang sinusunod ng rules kaya di nyo dapat itulad. kung ganun lang pala e di sana kahit mga lumang model o bulok na sasakyan e payagan nyo nang mag uber!. Pasintabi sa maraming tattoo, e sa inyo man humarap ang dalawang tao at humingi ng favor kanino kayo maniniwala? syempre sa walang tattoo. e bakit nya tatatuan ang uber? mag isip naman kayooooooo!!!
Hi Uber, putting those markers outside the vehicle would be a big disadvantage for us partners. Imagine people who are not familiar with the app based transport sharing system and try to flag you down but will not stop at them to take them and because they see those markings outside your vehicle and report you to the LTFRB as a PUV that ignores passenger/s especially during rush hours. This could easily be a good reason for LTFRB to revoke our license/permit to operate once they have accumulated a number of reports from unknowing passengers of the way we operate. What is your take on this? Thanks
Totally agree.
There are sooooooo many reasons why this is a BAD idea.
My passengers have told me they don’t want to drive in a vehicle that has any kind of marketing on it.
This is one of the main reasons they use Uber because they can ride in some beautiful vehicles “inconspicuous”
Syempre, panalo nanaman ang mga big taxi operators na may dakma sa mga bayag ng mga taga LTFRB. Pag may sticker na, malamang ma turn-off tayong mga partners na mag Uber dahil ayaw natin ng mga ganyang markings dahil private nga ang sasakyan natin. Ayaw din ng mga riders to kasi magmumukha nga na nag ordinaryong taxi lang sila. That’s three of the two biggest appeals of Uber gone. Dahan-dahan nilang pinapatay ang Uber by slowly implementing rules para pahirapan ang pag-pasok sa Uber. Less Uber operators, more customers para sa mga taxi operators.
Besides, sa mga sandamakmakang colorum at barumbadong PUV drivers eh wala silang magawa, sa atin pa kaya? Alam pa ba nila na operators tayo?
OMG! San wag na lagyan ng markings. Ang saya ko pa naman pag naka Uber kase parang may sarili akong service. Eh kung lalagyan ng markings para lang ako nag taxi 🙁
yun PA ko updated ng oct 20 wala pa ba feedback ang result
Antay lang po tayo ng update from LTFRB. For us it took us 1.5months after submission of requirements before we got our P.A
Hi, simple suggestion to everyone… sa lahat ng ayaw maglagay ng markings sa car nila.. then don’t… 1k lang naman yung fine… Drive safely and follow the traffic rules… in that way di ka masisita ng traffic enforcers… classy pa rin yung kotse mo… 😉 For me, yan ang gagawin ko…
with regards naman sa riders… i’m sure.. ayaw din nila na may markings yung uber car na maghahatid/magsusundo sa kanila… so it also favors their interest…
I am not agree sa markings na yan kaya nga nagustuhan ng mga riders ang uber dahil private useless naman yan e sa kalye na lang sila maglagay ng markings.
I have been an uber rider for a year and a half already. I totally disagree with having ltfrb markings on uber cars or any marking at all other than license plates and lto stickers. I use uber because it’s almost like riding a private car not a commuter vehicle. Having no markings on cars separate uber from taxi cabs. How will they be any different? It defeats the very sense of your tag line “everyone’s private driver” and “arrive in style.”
Why can’t uber come up with something else that won’t sacrifice the very reason they have the most number of clientele?
Ok lng sken khit ano basta kumita sasakyan ko.kaso nd nu nman natatanggap mga req kp for PA.HAHAHAHA
Uber u know our stand already even before this issue come out. U know your own stand too. Why not act out already rather than ask us our opinion? Of course we dont want it either. “everyone’s PRIVATE driver” private… Appeal to ltfrb for us. Thanks
Hi Christine, UberMNLTips is a 3rd party blog. We are fellow partners, Drivers, and riders who tirelessly bring you relevant, reliable and accurate information you don’t get anywhere else. That’s why we’re asking for your opinion because we’re looking at appealing these to LTFRB. We wish Uber and Grab would weigh in on the matter. But in case they don’t, we’re doing something and we hope you help us so we can continue to help fellow Partners.
This could be the start of Uber’s downfall. As it is madami na affected in a negative way nung inalis yung incentives. pinahirapan lahat lalo na mga drivers. Pumasok ang LTFRB nasira ang morale namin. Pag pumasok na ang BIR wala na kikitain.
Simple as this all operator not related sa ltfrb ay ma didissapoint simple lang they are planning to have a franchise at uber under the goverment officials or higher person na naka pwesto in short tayong maliliit na operator ay aalis at sila na ang tatayo as uber vehicle na babyahe under there names at maramihang unit…remember madaming gusto mag ka franchise ng taxi before na di makakuha kaya nagkakaron ng colorum at kambal plaka in short sa kanila na naman iikot ang pera ng bayan … goodluck manipulating uber under the goverment na kakalabasan ng lahat ginamit lang tayo kumbaga at pinadama sa diskarte nila.. lahat ng unit ng malalaking taxi company na ang makakapasok dito sa lokohang uber nato in short back to basic lokohan na naman sa commuters ito
HINDI BA NSA REQUIREMENTS NG UBER NA YUNG SASAKYAN AY WALANG MARKINGS PAKI CONFIRM NYO LANG..
Grabe naman pasakit ginagawa nitong pulpol na ahensya na to. Sa New York pag uber black kelangan mo lang ng limousine licence, that’s it. Pahirapan na nga pag rehistro sa LTFRB tapos dagdag pa yan.
If the admin hack of putting magnetic stick ons work, I’m ok with it. Pero I think pwede ito matanggal pag hinangin. As for the whole concept, that defeats the purpose of ride-sharing kung may visible markings pa.
Please search on YouTube – Mr Ginez interview with Daniel Razon. Tinawagan nya mismo live on-air ang LTFRB hotline. Pero not in service daw. He tried it a few times pa. EPIC FAIL. Wake up Mr Chairman. Hindi puro kalagayan na lang ng mga elitista, big taxi operators, at mga monopolista ini-intindi niyo! Give chance to small entrepreneurs.
I actually not in favor of this memo. Uber transactions are online right? So, what is the purpose of that markings? Lahat ng transactions are done online. In fact, the rider can rate the driver right after the trip. I think this LTFRB markings is just useless for uber partners. Ang maganda po since we are dealing our clients online why not upgrade the apps and place the LTFRB hotline? kasi lahat ng transaction natin ay online tama? Sa totoo lang po binibigyan lang natin ng way ang “kutong enforcers” na kutungan tayo eh.
May i suggest po, dapat po uber will contest or make an appeal on this matter. Ipaglaban nyo naman po sana kaming mga partners ninyo since po sa inyo namin pinagkatiwala ang pag process ng mga documents namin. Kayo lang po ang pwedeng gumawa ng action tungkol dito. You can appeal to LTFRB stressing that we are doing business online and instead of putting markings on each partners vehicle mas maigi naman siguro na ilagay na lang sa apps ang hotline ng LTFRB. In such case, mananatili pong private ang mga sasakyan namin and another thing, some of the riders chooses uber kasi hindi masyadong identified ito na nagta taxi sila eh. Sa totoo lang po, ang isang reason kung bakit ang dami pong nagkaka interest maging partner sa uber is because of extra income we can possibly have in return of a ride service we can offer to riders pero nanatili pong private ang aming mga sasakyan. Sana po uber management will make an appeal. Lahat naman ng problema ay may solusyon. You need to protect the privacy of your riders din. Sana po we can receive a positive news in the coming days regarding this.
If is in the law, ok… Anyway, bought a new car for uber lang talaga, kesa buy ako taxi then plus franchise
Good am. Ibabalik pa po ba ang incentive sa uber o hindi na?
Sir hindi po namin alam eh.
Having marks inside or outside – be they removable or not is the biggest JOKE this great agency can do. It’s 2015. What’s in the markings? Hotlines of the agencies that do not respond or may respond but would take forever?
Uber simply has to argue how riding with Uber is done if any from LTFRB hasn’t tried Uber yet. You have the driver details, plate number of the vehicle, contact info of the driver, and on the electronic receipt, you’d have the business name of the operator. All Uber needs to propose is to include the hotlines of these *bs# agencies. Period!
For those who are creating these memos or orders, Uber needs to provide them free credits for COMMON SENSE.
I totally agree. Stop the nonsense now!
Di kaya nagkamali ang uber sa pag allow ng operators with huge number of cars under them? As in as many as 200 na vios (alam nyo na kung sino yun) under 1 operator ? Kasi hindi na yun Personal car na nag share ng ride. it’s totally off the original concept of ride sharing. If there were 10,000 car owners with just one car each to share, siguro hindi yun pwede pakialaman ng LTFRB? At siguro mas lalong di pwede pakialaman ng LTFRB kung hindi nag open ng office dito sa Manila ang uber? If it were simply a Web- based car sharing scheme, LTFRB would not have suddenly found it their obligation to protect the riding public by “regulating” (kuno) the new uber transport scheme.
Tama ka diyan tol. First time ko narinig that ÜBER is in Manila. I immediately thought na papasukin agad to ng mga big operators. Yung mga tipo ng MGE, Wallis, atbp. Tapos magiging saturated ang market. At the end of the day, mga maliliit na entrepreneurs ang apektado, tulad natin.
I totally agree with you Fred, I really believe that Uber was to shake the antiquated, monopolistic and boundary based schemes transport industry. That is why there are numerous complains regarding too many smart drivers who are “utak taxi”, The essence of ridedsharing has not been met here. See my comment “pappi jt on November 17, 2015 at 2:00 am” . I even gave up my day job as a Programmer last 2014 because the add was “Do you own a car? want to earn EXTRA…”
was supposed to be Your Car You Drive..
around how long does it take before PA is handed out? from online submission to time uber tells you that you can get it.
For us it took 1.5months from submission of requirements before we got our P.A
Kelan po kayo nag apply? Ung sakin kasi 1.5 months na wala pa ding PA ;(
sana wag maituloy yang markings…nakakalungkot naman kung kailan ka naman nagkaroon ng sasakyan bigla pang magiging public na public tulad ng taxi ang dating.
Im planning to be a partner. pero kung bababuyin ng LTFRB mga sasakyan natin, worth it ba yung kikitain natin sa uber?
Any updates on this?
Nung una gusto tayo i discourage by imposing markings. Ngayon naman ipapatigil na ng tuluyan ang Operations natin kasi nalulugi na ang taxi at uv Express operators. ganito ang logic nyan. Pag ang McDonald’s ay nalulugi na dahil sa dami ng Jollibee dapat ipasara ang Jollibee. instead na maging competitive ang taxi at uv Express, ipatigil ang uber para ma maintain ang bulok na sistema.
tama!
Uber is designed originally to be a limousine service. The concept is its a hired personal vehicle only for a defined period of time. Globally that’s the Uber concept and that is the international standard. Why do we have to veer from that. Might as well remove Uber as a service if you change the concept to a taxi.
It will defeat the purpose of why riders want to ride Uber. The privacy, the discretion as though its your own vehicle. What is the difference anyway if its LTRFB marked or not? There is no VALUE add that that agency provided for riders and drivers the like. Hold ups still happen, kidnapping likewise still happen. It’s just showing how the Philippines is unable to adapt to the fast evolving market. Its short of saying, “Lets go counter-progressive and still operate using land lines as contact centers for complaints (expecting to be “after the fact” should incidences happen.”” Its so reactive rather than preventive. Halatang pinipilit lang sarili nila in a fast moving industry.
Ano na po ang update sa memo na ito? Kasi iba na na ang mga nakaupo sa Gov